Moral Harassment , each of Marie-France Hirigoyen's books has sounded like a social manifesto. The psychoanalyst returns with us on the deep meaning of all her struggles. Pascale SenkPsychologies: You are a psychoanalyst, listening to individual stories, but all your books point to collective ills. How do you explain it?
: I think we psys are good social observers because people come to talk to us without censorship about what they live on a daily basis. Initially, I am only describing situations without a priori theoretical. This is probably because I took ethnology classes when I was a medical student. I like to observe and, suddenly, when situations are similar, I say to myself: "Here, it's weird." I also believe that there is a universality of what I describe, because the processes I point out are ultimately very stereotyped. I received hundreds of letters from readers around the world, who recognized themselves in my observations. The mechanism of moral harassment, for example, how did you discover it?
When I wrote my first book on this subject, I wanted to give a different view of what I heard about the so-called "masochism of the victims". And on the fact that, in given situations, there was no aggressor or attacker, but a circular movement that caused the victim, in a certain way, to induce the situation that she ended up suffering . I had observed cases where I totally disagreed with that. Not only was the person not responsible for what was happening to him, but the situation itself could be described as aggression and a trap. Another observation: the more this victim struggled, the more it sank. This is what I called "the hold" in domestic violence and "moral harassment" at work.
From book to book, you have been constantly exploring these situations of "perverse aggression". Why?